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VT Town Hall meetings on the West and other rivers!

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November 9, 2015 - 3:31 pm
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All 2015. We need people to come out and support white water paddling and scheduled releases on the West and other VT Rivers. The new basin plan calls for unnecessarily eliminating Fall scheduled releases in Jamaica VT.

Below is the meeting schedule:

November 10
6:00 – 8:30 PM
Chester Town Office
556 Elm St., Chester, VT

November 17
6:00 – 8:30 PM
Londonderry Town Office
100 Old School Street, South Londonderry, VT

November 23
6:00 – 8:30 PM
Newfane Town Office
555 Route 30, Newfane, VT

Here is a link to the plan:…/pl_basin11-13_draft……/pl_basin11-13_appen…

Bob Nasdor
Northeast Stewardship Director
American Whitewater
65 Blueberry Hill Lane
Sudbury, MA 01776


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November 9, 2015 - 3:43 pm
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The scheduled West River fall release concerns raised in the document are NOT scientifically tenable. What an unnatural event, a sudden increase in water levels with no apparent warning caused by a dam releasing water… what possible natural event could mimic such an occurrence… umm… oh wait its called RAIN…

Digging deeper into the document the underlying studies referenced have 2 issues. One, they are based on research of water releases in power generation scenarios where daily changes of water flows occur. This is far different then the situation on the West River where there are a few releases a year.

Issue two is the nature of the basin deep and rocky vs low and flat, but at the end of the day issue one is enough.

Fresh water fauna have evolved to deal with occasional episodic rises and decreases in water levels caused by naturally occurring processes, such as rain where rapid rises in water levels occur in very short periods of time. In the Fall we often have significant rain events.

The two day fall release events have no more impact on fauna then the naturally occurring weather patterns of the last 11,700 years since the end of the last glacial period. The scheduled water events do however offer significant positive economic impact to the towns and communities including Jamaica, VT.

I’ll try and do some digging to see where the public hearings are and what address we can write to so that we may voice our concerns.

The West River in Jamaica VT is a New England gem. Scheduled fall releases offer significant tourism opportunities that attract thousands of visitors annually to the community with huge economic benefits. From the school food cart that raises money for student travel to the Church supper, a sold out Jamaica State Park, and surrounding campgrounds.

While the scientific evidence being sited is accurate, its applicability to the West River scheduled fall releases is questionable. We all realize there is a difference between a pack a day smoker of cigarettes and someone who has two a year. The VT plan takes the pack a day research and applies it to trivial events.

I hope you will all help me to save the fall white water releases on the West River in Jamaica, VT.

Chuck Still
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November 11, 2015 - 12:20 pm
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Vermont River Comments Needed

Paddlers have an opportunity to let Vermont Agency on Natural Resources know about our interest in boating on southern Vermont rivers (Basin 11 and 13) including the West, Rock, Ball Mountain Brook, Williams, Saxtons, Winhall, Connecticut (below Bellows Falls), and other rivers in the region. AW filed comments this week on the plan Let VANR know that you care about boating on Vermont rivers. Comments are due by November 30th and should be sent to:

Marie Levesque Caduto, Watershed Coordinator
ANR / Dept. of Environmental Conservation
100 Mineral Street, Suite 303
Springfield, VT 05156-3168

Please share this notice and email a copy of your comments to

Bob Nasdor


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November 18, 2015 - 9:00 am
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The links above didn’t work. Looks like the “.pdf” was cut off.

I wish I was local enough to make the meetings.

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